极速赛车168最新开奖号码 Comments on: Social care staff carrying out tasks previously undertaken by NHS, without extra funding, say directors https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2023/11/16/social-care-staff-carrying-out-tasks-previously-undertaken-by-nhs-without-extra-funding-say-directors/ Social Work News & Social Care Jobs Sat, 02 Dec 2023 10:35:15 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 Graph showing increasing workload 极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Tony Adam https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2023/11/16/social-care-staff-carrying-out-tasks-previously-undertaken-by-nhs-without-extra-funding-say-directors/#comment-328459 Sat, 02 Dec 2023 10:35:15 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=202663#comment-328459 In reply to Chris Sterry.

Absolutely agree with Cris and most of the other comments here. CHC is like a bad joke. The process has way too many hoops to jump through and technicalities of conditions and intervention required that make it too easy for health to say not eligible.

The health and social care split overall is crazy in my area, I work in Mental Health and our social work office is literally 100 yards away from the NHS Mental Health team yet in terms of ease of communication and co-working we might as well be in different countries!

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Gail https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2023/11/16/social-care-staff-carrying-out-tasks-previously-undertaken-by-nhs-without-extra-funding-say-directors/#comment-327932 Thu, 23 Nov 2023 09:59:57 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=202663#comment-327932 In reply to Daniel.

That is so true. I spent a few years in a CCG within joint commissioning and as a social worker I was always objective, unlike some of my ‘health’ colleagues who seemed to want to shaft neighbouring Local Authorities showing no regard for service-users and their families. I was horrified by the pressure imposed on us to reduce the CHC budget. I had to leave for my own sanity and no longer work in this area, but it sounds like matters are worse than ever.

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Chris Sterry https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2023/11/16/social-care-staff-carrying-out-tasks-previously-undertaken-by-nhs-without-extra-funding-say-directors/#comment-327817 Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:29:07 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=202663#comment-327817 This is a disgrace for more should be accessing health care than through social care for it should be condition-based and much care is due to health conditions rather than non-health conditions. The real problem was in 1948 when all care be it deemed to be social or health should have been designated as health and none as social.

But, in those days most care in the home was done by families as the degrees of disabilities and other aspects were not as pronounced as they are now. People are currently living longer be they be disabled or not but the gap between some disability mortality is still a very large gap between persons assessed to have no disabilities.

Over the years the split between health and social care has created much duplication and confusion which would never have occurred if there had been no split between health and social care.

But lack of funding in both health and social is a forever problem and much more so with regards to social care, just look at the pay rate for social care workers for one. They are classed as unskilled when to do care as it should be done they have to be very skilled, in how to use hoists both portable and tracking, feeding in many different requirements and so much more.

Yes, there are staff shortages in both health and social care, but so much more so in social care, even to persons coming from outwith the UK. The visa allocations are also problems and when granted the period length is too short.

To reduce the shortages in social care staffing the pay rates have to be considerably increased to far more than both the National and Real Living Wages.

Governments are not listening, but do they ever, but, I they don’t very soon I can see that social care will fail to exist and then the NHS will not be far behind. However, that could be the real intention of the government and that would be the end of any care free at the point of delivery and it could then get even worse than in the USA.

Now that is unthinkable, but so is the current situation so we have to get a listening government some how.

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Alec Fraher https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2023/11/16/social-care-staff-carrying-out-tasks-previously-undertaken-by-nhs-without-extra-funding-say-directors/#comment-327808 Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:58:09 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=202663#comment-327808 In reply to Daniel.

the Health and Well-being Board Scrutiny Boards within each Council the ICB area covers have this function ~ the inception of the ICB’s wholly dependent on agreements made with the out-going CCG’s for no substantive changes in the delivery plans at Local Authority level.

Planitr, eh!

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Claire H https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2023/11/16/social-care-staff-carrying-out-tasks-previously-undertaken-by-nhs-without-extra-funding-say-directors/#comment-327802 Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:20:59 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=202663#comment-327802 I work in Adult Social work and the slow push to make social care fund health is more apparent now. I get support plans for packages of care costing several thousands and when I say any funding from health I am met with they are not eligible yet we are managing and paying for health needs. CHC and ICB dont recognise our parameters and dont care as they hold the power. All we get is agree with us or else. I have attended many resolution meetings and been shot down as ICB hold more power over local authorities then people realise. I find this more challenging as work in Learning Disabilities and some needs such as behaviour are not social care
Why have guidence if this is not followed. I also worked in a CHC team so do understand DST’s and complex needs. What is also apparent is how the NHS view social work and social workers as being inferior. It wont work unless there is respect

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Jackie Mahoney https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2023/11/16/social-care-staff-carrying-out-tasks-previously-undertaken-by-nhs-without-extra-funding-say-directors/#comment-327780 Tue, 21 Nov 2023 10:58:17 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=202663#comment-327780 Glad to see this is being raised as it has been happening for a number of years without challenge.
The protection of pots of money and determination to put services over to social care is tangible. But all the money is going over the ICBs or Health and nothing coming to Social Care??

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Pat https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2023/11/16/social-care-staff-carrying-out-tasks-previously-undertaken-by-nhs-without-extra-funding-say-directors/#comment-327765 Tue, 21 Nov 2023 07:41:59 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=202663#comment-327765 In reply to Alec Fraher.

@Alec. Spot on. And now we’re in the crisis, created by the govt.

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Janet https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2023/11/16/social-care-staff-carrying-out-tasks-previously-undertaken-by-nhs-without-extra-funding-say-directors/#comment-327697 Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:29:38 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=202663#comment-327697 Have they really only just noticed this!!!!?

It’s not just about CHC. A great deal of what is now described as ‘social care’ (which nobody had heard of 30 years ago) was once done by the NHS via the District Nurse or similar

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Angela Gifford https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2023/11/16/social-care-staff-carrying-out-tasks-previously-undertaken-by-nhs-without-extra-funding-say-directors/#comment-327691 Mon, 20 Nov 2023 13:21:55 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=202663#comment-327691 In reply to Tina N.

Hi Tina,

As a care provider of many years I have recently written to ICB’s and to Adult Social Work teams. There is no acknowledgement of the letters, just zilch. I know in talking to other providers they are experiencing the same thing. They have availability which is not being taken up. Very sad. Angela

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Daniel https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2023/11/16/social-care-staff-carrying-out-tasks-previously-undertaken-by-nhs-without-extra-funding-say-directors/#comment-327635 Sun, 19 Nov 2023 20:09:21 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=202663#comment-327635 There is so much bias in this whole process. ICB’s should delegate this decision making to an independent board.

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