极速赛车168最新开奖号码 Comments on: Rob Greig: ‘We are going backwards on learning disability – there needs to be a fresh narrative’ https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2018/10/24/rob-greig-going-backwards-learning-disability-needs-fresh-narrative/ Social Work News & Social Care Jobs Fri, 02 Nov 2018 00:11:07 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 Rob Greig_NDTI 极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Martin https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2018/10/24/rob-greig-going-backwards-learning-disability-needs-fresh-narrative/#comment-154033 Fri, 02 Nov 2018 00:11:07 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=166815#comment-154033 I share Rob’s despair and feel equally demoralised. I remember managing services in the early 2000’s in which clinicians where trained as PCP facilitators, where people where placed at the heart of service planning irrespective of the challenges they presented. I remember managing services which I couldn’t say where they would be in 5/10 years time because they would be shaped by the people we supported. I still grieve for those times before the cuts we suffered because I felt we made a difference, and that’s why I became a nurse. But I remember a time when we offered true supported living to the most complex of people and watched them flourish once we had gone through a period of decompression after years of institutionalisation. I watched some go on to have intimate relationships, the thing we take for granted, I remember some of our so called high risk individuals who previously lived in specialist inpatient units by themselves living in ordinary houses, supported by ordinary people being embraced by their local communities and I mourn for those times. It’s takes special people, such as Rob, to have the faith and determination to make that dream a reality for some of our most challenging people. Like Rob I don’t see any inspirational leadership / policies/ initiatives which will help build on what has previously been achieved. For me the defining era in learning disabilities was the early 2000’s, a bit like my musical tastes really, but I won’t look back with the same sense of nostalgia. I wish you all the best for the future Rob

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Amanda reynolds https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2018/10/24/rob-greig-going-backwards-learning-disability-needs-fresh-narrative/#comment-153998 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 07:47:23 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=166815#comment-153998 In reply to Rob Greig.

Too many years ago now I was leading the closure of a long stay hospital in Norfolk and I read the valuing people policy just after it was published . I had no idea how in Norfolk where Institutional care seeemd to be the norm we would do it BUT I knew instinctively valuing people was what we needed to deliver. I somehow got robs number at DH and I still remember your advice and support to me . We closed that hospital and moved more than 100 people into their own homes . Robs team continued to support me – mentoring me though many challenges .

I think we are in crisis now about the funding cuts BUT it’s not just the money our greatest crisis is the cuts have given us a poverty of ambition and we have lost the relentless drive to support people to have the lives we take for granted as our right in 2018

Thankyou rob for “valuing people” and thankyou is never enough for your drive, your leadership and your skill in keeping learning disability high on the agenda for so long

Take a well deserved break, flame that fire and look forward to what’s next for you

Amanda

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Rob Greig https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2018/10/24/rob-greig-going-backwards-learning-disability-needs-fresh-narrative/#comment-153880 Tue, 30 Oct 2018 08:22:38 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=166815#comment-153880 In reply to Charles Henley.

After around 20 years of doing it to justify your negative and outdated agenda Charles, don’t you think it is about time that you stopped misrepresenting and intentionally misunderstanding what I and others have said and done?

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Charles Henley https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2018/10/24/rob-greig-going-backwards-learning-disability-needs-fresh-narrative/#comment-153863 Mon, 29 Oct 2018 19:49:12 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=166815#comment-153863 Much as I sympathise with the despairing part of Rob’s narrative I think his mistake was building his philosophies and objectives on the ‘bad old days of 20 years ago.’
Like so many other ‘new generation pioneers’ who came into this area of social work in the 1990s, Rob missed the evolutionary progressive part from which there was much to learn. 1970 -1985.
Instead, he picked up the chaos cause by the King’s Fund Centre’s fanatics who decreed in 1984, that as everybody, regardless of profoundness and complexity of disability, was capable of getting a paid job, all Day Centres and special care units could be closed. Structured and specialist support wasn’t necessary because ‘the community’ was where they belonged and ‘the community’ could meet all their needs. Unbelievable this may seem , but it was followed by a mantra that has been taken over and led us to Winterbourne View and where cars in the community is now. Charles Henley

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Mel Axon https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2018/10/24/rob-greig-going-backwards-learning-disability-needs-fresh-narrative/#comment-153710 Fri, 26 Oct 2018 14:27:07 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=166815#comment-153710 I also have been working I have been learning disabities for 36 years and my thoughts reflect your too Rob. Frustrated that I am sometimes to be hearing ideas that we had…. Yes 20 years ago. Good luck for your future and thanks for the work you have achieved.

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Maxine Bell https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2018/10/24/rob-greig-going-backwards-learning-disability-needs-fresh-narrative/#comment-153702 Fri, 26 Oct 2018 11:38:51 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=166815#comment-153702 How amazing to hear someone speak like this. I have a son of 23 with Down’s syndrome and I am one of those pain -i-n butt parents who stay informed, speak up for their son and those of his peers to be treated as equal human beings. I also work in a sector as a specialist in Learning Disabilities.
The care act came in to personalise care and support, but as you say, into a system in crisis. I do understand that. I have worked in the NHS, education and the charitable side of social care.
However, attitudes have nothing to do with budgets and I do still keep hitting walls on behalf of my son, in ASC and other services. I still feel many do not see people with LD as valuable. For instance, many financial assessments are extremely basic. In residential a statutory amount is allowed of about £24, with no questions on what activities or interests they have, no questions on what they might need to buy themselves or if it is enough for clothes etc. The decision is generic and therefore a long way from personalisation. This continues in supported living arrangements too. Please also, if an adult with LD is living at home please stop thinking of them as children just because they live at home with their parents.
The sad thing is this is one group of people who need society’s support. Their needs are created through no fault of their own. Yet their are many of us who contribute to our own lack of wellbeing and receive better services and treatment. The government and other agencies are short sighted, heads buried in the sand and people with LD do and will need support, but they are also entitled to a meaningful life with love, friends, aspirations, employment and activities they enjoy. I get exhausted from the “fight” as well, so I do understand Rob’s need to stop “hitting his head against brick walls,” but I was so glad to hear of all the things he has done so far and I hope that our voices can be heard louder and clearer and give more space for adults with LD to be heard too. I hope that someone will pick up the banner for this great cause for these wonderful group of people.

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Lyn https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2018/10/24/rob-greig-going-backwards-learning-disability-needs-fresh-narrative/#comment-153701 Fri, 26 Oct 2018 11:26:46 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=166815#comment-153701 I appreciate you have retired but the cic portsmouth needs a big shake up the company mindset is stuck in the past

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Lyn https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2018/10/24/rob-greig-going-backwards-learning-disability-needs-fresh-narrative/#comment-153699 Fri, 26 Oct 2018 11:13:55 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=166815#comment-153699 In reply to Julie Pointer.

I absolutely agree

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Julie Pointer https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2018/10/24/rob-greig-going-backwards-learning-disability-needs-fresh-narrative/#comment-153687 Fri, 26 Oct 2018 07:27:19 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=166815#comment-153687 Well written as always Rob. We need to start with inclusion of all children in what is sadly becoming a bit of a fractured society. I certainly welcome the plan for Ofsted to shift the curriculum to include a more rounded approach to education to include the arts as well, but this is about values, equality and difference and the more integrated our schools are the more understanding of difference the next generation will be.
Professionals need to stop being precious about their roles and stop assessing families to death. Have a shared vision about where you want to get to and an equal conversation about how to get there.

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极速赛车168最新开奖号码 By: Julia Brown https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2018/10/24/rob-greig-going-backwards-learning-disability-needs-fresh-narrative/#comment-153641 Thu, 25 Oct 2018 17:22:33 +0000 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/?p=166815#comment-153641 Feel very fortunate that we had the privilege of Rob Leading our 2018 Social Care Top Leaders Programme – we are all passionate at talk the talk and walk the walk – still meeting as a proactive national action learning group. Aiming to continue to strive to always keep individuals we support at the heart of everything.

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